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Old Feb 27, 2008, 06:47 AM // 06:47   #1
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Default Rt/R Build try out

I know, there are probably alot of builds out there, but I havent found a splinter barrage build that I liked with that much with Rt/R, anyway.. I just made this build to try out. I dont know how to make fancy build pages where you see the icons.. so. bare with me..

1. barrage
2. Splinter weapon
3. Ancestors Rage
4. Essence strike
5. Charm Animal
6. Comfort Animal
7. Bloodsong
8. Your choice of ress.

The idea is ofcourse to use a bow and splinter weapon with barrage, ancestors rage on your pet for additional damage (with bloodsong up, which also gives alittle damage)

Essence strike provide some E-managment and deals damage.

I deals alot of damage in many diffrent ways.

12 Marksman
12+2 Channeling
Rest in beast mastery.

Thoughts?

Thank you..

Edit: Oyeah, I use full Survivor + 1 vitae.

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Old Feb 27, 2008, 06:53 AM // 06:53   #2
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I don't see much of a point for the bloodsong and essence strike, i'd rather bring d-shot and "Dodge This!".

Cool idea though, i saw some guy use this in unwaking waters mission back when factions came out and it looked like it owned.
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Old Feb 27, 2008, 07:05 AM // 07:05   #3
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Bloodsong essence strike, is for more damage.. and u actually gain 2 mana ever 8 second + do damage..

The thing when I use ancestors on people they tend to leave and do something else, and I waste my mana.. I know my pet will never leave the target unless i tell it to =)
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Old Feb 27, 2008, 08:31 AM // 08:31   #4
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and u actually gain 2 MANA ever 8 second
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Old Feb 27, 2008, 08:34 AM // 08:34   #5
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you go -----> that way... thx .. bye..enjoy

And if u want to be picky, its welcome back and I do want a cookie.
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Old Feb 27, 2008, 11:08 AM // 11:08   #6
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you go -----> that way... thx .. bye..enjoy

And if u want to be picky, its welcome back and I do want a cookie.
hmm... no comment on this.

and take it from the experianced people who've been playing nonstop for the last 24+ months. blood song and essence strike = gg. get rid of them both asap shiro returns and backhands you with one of his many....erm..... "swords" ?

imo, what i would replace them with would be: 1) whirling defenses, and 2) natural stride.

but again, that's just me.

blood song = waste of time just even casting it (with a ranger). essence strike w/ a ranger? ... not even going there, bud. ^^

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Old Feb 27, 2008, 11:45 AM // 11:45   #7
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I take it this is for a Tombs run?
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Old Feb 27, 2008, 12:21 PM // 12:21   #8
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12 Marksman
12+2 Channeling
Rest in beast mastery.
I personally would lower Marksmanship a bit (most damage comes from Channeling anyway) and put some more in Beast Mastery to make your pet a bit more survivable. If you use a zealous bow you shouldn't have any energy problems. That way you can swap out Essence Strike out for something like Call Of Protection.
I would leave Bloodsong out as well. Instead I would put in Distracting Shot or maybe even Great Dwarf Weapon for your pet.
You could also consider to use Spirit's Strength + Splinter Weapon + Volley.
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Old Feb 27, 2008, 01:35 PM // 13:35   #9
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Less Marksmanship, more utilities, more imba PvE skills like Pain Inverter.

Splinter Weapon + Barrage will ensure an immense damage output whichever way you look at it, so fill the remaining slots with imba PvE skills, Ritualist utility skills, etc.

You could seriously manage Splinter Barrage at Marksmanship 0, so don't be afraid to lower it to, say, 9.

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Old Feb 27, 2008, 01:52 PM // 13:52   #10
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first of, I am not a ranger btw..

I did lower it to 9, took beast mastery with the rest of the points.. took away bloodsong and essence strike. Zelous bow is enough it seems.. atm dual shot and distracting shot. (dont have the imba PvE skills on this char atm)

I tried it now for some hours with H/H... it is working like a chaaarm..
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Old Feb 27, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36   #11
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Since you're getting most of your damage from splinter weapon, you may want to try volley instead of barrage. The recharge is more suitable for use with splinter weapon and using it will free up your elite skill slot.
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Old Feb 27, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49   #12
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Nightmare weapon + triple shot ftw!
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Old Feb 28, 2008, 01:18 AM // 01:18   #13
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I would use a bar more like this:

[card]Offering Of Spirit[/card][card]Favorable Winds[/card][card]Splinter Weapon[/card][card]Ancestors' Rage[/card][card]Charm Animal[/card][card]Comfort Animal[/card][card]Death Pact Signet[/card]

Marks: 9
Channelling: 12 + 1 + 1
Beastmastery: 9
Spawning power: the rest (i believe it comes to 3)

Use a zealous or elemental flatbow.

That way you can have enough energy to spam volley, keep casting splinter and ancestors' rage.
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Old Feb 28, 2008, 03:01 PM // 15:01   #14
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I run this on my rt/r. Marksmanship can be lowered to 0 with this build. I recommend a dire pet as the dmg will be a bit higher, more importantly the health is low and will make the pet the target/tank. I solo some easy HM areas with this build. Don't forget to cast your wep spells on the pet too.

Volley
Distracting shot
Spirits Strength
Splinter Wep
Ancestors Rage
Charm Animal
Comfort Animal
<optional> (Warmongers, Brutal Strike, IAS (Never Rampage Alone but energy can be a bit much), Rez)

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Old Feb 28, 2008, 05:09 PM // 17:09   #15
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and u actually gain 2 mana ever 8 second
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It's actually 3 mana, the cutoff is at 13+ Channeling.

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Old Feb 29, 2008, 01:35 AM // 01:35   #16
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I changed some on the build yesterday.

I added "Dodge This"

I like barrage more then volley.

1. Barrage
2. Splinter
3. Ancestors
4. "Dodge This" (Since its the only adrenline, its is up almost all the time, cost no mana and makes you do more damage..very useful)
5. - FREE SLOT - (currently its mostly ress signet for me)
6. Comfort Animal
7. Charm
8. Ress


It works extremely well.

I use Chkrr bow (Zelous bow with +30hp) and full survivor
The pet is a Dire Tiger.

I have no bigger issues with mana.

Heroes: SABWAY =) It helps casting splinter or more people in the group + myself, so I can cast on the pet from time to time.

I was in love with this build yesterday! Specially mobs that likes to stick together.

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Old Feb 29, 2008, 02:58 AM // 02:58   #17
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Actually, this build is better for more DPS, and can much more easily take out single enemies when the "splinter barrage moment" is gone and they have dispersed.
[skill]Spirit's Strength[/skill][skill]Sight Beyond Sight[/skill][skill]Splinter Weapon[/skill][skill]Volley[/skill][skill]Triple Shot[/skill][skill]Nightmare Weapon[/skill][skill]Weapon of Aggression[/skill]

You splinter volley until the mob clears up, then Weapon of Agression + spirits strength auto attack at single foes, or triple shot nightmare weapon for 150 lifesteal.
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Old Feb 29, 2008, 03:00 AM // 03:00   #18
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The above is good but drop Triple and Nightmare for Savage and D-shot. Nightmare Weapon cancels out the damage bonus from Spirit's Strength so it's not really desirable.
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Old Feb 29, 2008, 11:13 AM // 11:13   #19
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maybe fit in dwarven weapon for your pet
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Old Mar 03, 2008, 09:38 PM // 21:38   #20
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I changed some on the build yesterday.

I added "Dodge This"

I like barrage more then volley.

1. Barrage
2. Splinter
3. Ancestors
4. "Dodge This" (Since its the only adrenline, its is up almost all the time, cost no mana and makes you do more damage..very useful)
5. - FREE SLOT - (currently its mostly ress signet for me)
6. Comfort Animal
7. Charm
8. Ress


It works extremely well.

I use Chkrr bow (Zelous bow with +30hp) and full survivor
The pet is a Dire Tiger.

I have no bigger issues with mana.

Heroes: SABWAY =) It helps casting splinter or more people in the group + myself, so I can cast on the pet from time to time.

I was in love with this build yesterday! Specially mobs that likes to stick together.

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with this free slot i would put distracting shot, the damge lose because of expertise doesnt matter because splinter weapon helps you out and it is a very nice interupt
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